The Athletic's Paul Tenorio joins Roche to discuss the Andrew Gutman loan saga and how MLS's "helicopter general managing" style escalated the situation. Will the owners address the League's meddling or will the players in the next CBA? Do either care enough to try and address it? Then, Paul and Roche discuss the future of solidarity payments in the U.S. as well as Russell Canouse's USMNT future. Later, D.C. United rookie Akeem Ward talks about DCU's preseason thus far, Donovan Pines, his role with the team, and more.